I had a question for the entire occupy Oakland. I truly support what you’re doing and the cause but why don’t all the occupy movements combine forces and camp out in Washington DC or Sacramento? What power does the city of Oakland contribute to the rest of the nation? I understand you guys are soldiers in the fight against greed and a corrupt system but you’re fighting the war in a location where no real troops are located. If the enemy is the government I would think Washington DC is the home base. Can anyone shed some light on this?
This message doesn’t only apply to Oakland. This applies the ENTIRE occupy movement.
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Now this is type of idea that is being lost upon the movement – disruption of government is what is needed. They sold themselves and our vote – we should be occupying, marching, yelling, and screaming right at the center of government when and where possible.
A major exodus trip to sac or DC would be great, but as the power of this movement really lies in the people being able to support occupy no matter where they are…….how could this call for action be revised to occur in the communities where people live?
Most people don’t pay attention to the theft of America. Most people are happy to live their lives without dealing with the “bigger” problems.
But our future is about to change for the worse. It is not going to happen overnight. Well, except for when individuals lose their jobs, or their pensions. The crisis wasn’t fixed by throwing money at banks in 2008.
Define American dreams? Do you include the words , “Police State”? Because clearly that is what we have.
If everyone moved to Washington DC and gathered together. In my dream world of what America means, their voices would be talked too in congress and so on. But we live in a Police State. If they all gather in one spot. They would be treated as a group and removed as a group. And then all the rest of America would have fear.
The safety of having hundreds of camps of a few dozen to hundreds of people scattered through our cities gives our nation , One Last Chance. To wake up . And work together to evolve to our expected society under our constitution, Freedom for all.
Because we live in a Police State . I want the police and laws to work for the majority of people. And not for the highest bidder.
There are thousands of people in Syria that support their dictator. They will follow him into Civil War. The protesters there are just in the later stages of living in a Police State. This is America’s Last Chance. Because Police States don’t turn out well.
There is power in numbers in a civilized discussion. But all the government would have to do is blow everyone up during a media black out and then start a story about the Occupiers bringing in a bomb.
Parts of America aren’t living as a Police State. And parts of America like here in Oakland are clearly run like people are slaves and expendable. As time goes on the hope is that everyone takes America’s pulse and puts their trust in the few that show exemplary courage and support for humanity.
That’s my take.
Again a plug. Watch “Inside Job” an Award Winning Documentary voiced by Matt Damon that covers the financial crisis of 2008 and the foundation for Occupy Wall Street.
I don’t speak for the movement, just for myself, a supporter.
The first thing is that you want to get away from the “war” mindset. That’s how the 1% thinks.
The second thing is to realize that yes this is a social movement, but more than that it’s also an awakening, if you will. This enlightenment has “occupied” various locations, including Wall Street, Oakland, Portland, Los Angeles, everywhere. The social movement part is more of a consequence of this enlightenment.
Hi Solesuppliers,
There is a basic truth in the saying, “in numbers there is strength”, and “In unity there’s strength, as well as “divide, and conquer”. Yeah.
But, we can be strong and united thanks to technology around the country. We can talk and have video conferences to form the kind of unity/solidarity that will eventually make Occupy’s mark.
However, the key is unity.
Locally there is much we can do. Not many people can travel, let alone leave jobs–if we have one. But there are representative targets here of what is ruining our country. It is perhaps more important to “occupy” the culprits locally— banksters, politicians, all the people of the 1%. And if we make sure what we’re doing is known by all the rest of Occupy, then we’re going somewhere.
Take care,
Tom Luce, Berkeley
to Arron who just made a comment about my post i appreciate it “there is a DC camp, we need local camps for local participation. political corruption happens at the state and city level just as much as the federal.”
but if this i war why are gonna have all your troops spread out? all the local cops win regardless on how many times you go back. they have the man power and law to beat you at this.
i always thought it was power in numbers and yes the occupy has the numbers but spread out thought out the nation?
it just doesn’t make sense. it would be a more impact if you attacked out nations capital. im not saying as a act of terrorism but more just a shock value.